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what is the best movie of 2017
Justice League 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Coco 5%  5%  [ 2 ]
Wonder Woman 12%  12%  [ 5 ]
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Spider-Man:Homecoming 12%  12%  [ 5 ]
Thor: Ragnarok 5%  5%  [ 2 ]
It 5%  5%  [ 2 ]
The Lego Batman Movie 5%  5%  [ 2 ]
The Lego Ninjago Movie 2%  2%  [ 1 ]
Blade Runner 2049 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Logan 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Beauty and the Beast 19%  19%  [ 8 ]
Cars 3 5%  5%  [ 2 ]
Dunkirk 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Kong:Skull Island 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Murder On The Orient Express 7%  7%  [ 3 ]
Paddington 2 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Star Wars: The Last Jedi 26%  26%  [ 11 ]
Total votes : 43
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2017 8:53 pm 
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Don't kill me but the only movie on that list that I have watched is beauty and the beast

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You should put Darkest Hour on there

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Technically Paddington 2 is 2018...

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I'm surprised that I'm the only one who voted for Murder on the Orient Express. It was done so well, and I got to see it in theaters two times.

What? *goes to vote* I really enjoyed this one, however my friends all claimed they fell asleep in theater because it was that awful... They made it seem like something was wrong with me for enjoying it.


Yeah, I don't understand the hate that I've heard for it. I've heard some people say it was "boring", but I think they sort of misunderstood the point of the film. It's a murder mystery, and follows the investigation, which consists mostly of passenger interviews. It's not meant to be a fast-paced thriller, it's an adaptation of a classic mystery. And it did a very good job of honoring the classic, and of bringing the characters (especially Poirot) to life. I personally think the book did a better job of the mystery portion, but I was never in it for the mystery (as I had already read the book), so that wasn't a huge issue for me.

I also voted for Coco and Beauty and the Beast. I think I'm becoming a Disnerd.

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Beauty and the best was ok. Well graphics and acting and all it was just that last part kinda ruined it for me.

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Beauty and the best was ok. Well graphics and acting and all it was just that last part kinda ruined it for me.

Last part?

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Beauty and the best was ok. Well graphics and acting and all it was just that last part kinda ruined it for me.

Last part?

If this is about the gay part, I'm gonna scream bloody murder until all the haters ears go deaf.

It's just so..... small-minded.

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It most certainly is the case.

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And you should add The Greatest Showman. It came out Dec 20... AND IT LITERALLY IS THE BEST MUSICAL EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I retract my statement. Nvm.

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Who else voted IT?

CUZ IT WAS SO GOOD.

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Ya know what? I was thinking particularly about what Miss Friendship said:

Miss Friendship wrote:
Belle wrote:
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Beauty and the best was ok. Well graphics and acting and all it was just that last part kinda ruined it for me.

Last part?

If this is about the gay part, I'm gonna scream bloody murder until all the haters ears go deaf.

It's just so..... small-minded.


I have the right to my opinion. If things like that make me uncomfortable can't I express that? The Bible says in 1 Timothy 1:19 "keeping faith and a good conscience, which some have rejected and suffered shipwreck in regard to their faith." If I find it goes against my conscience to see stuff like that should I ignore that? Also I believe with a topic like this yes it's bad for people to hate on homosexuality, but isn't it just as worst to hate on the haters? If every Christian gave back hate when they were given hate where would we be? So this has just been something bugging me. So saying something like "I'm gonna scream bloody murder until all the haters ears go deaf" isn't much better than someone hating on homosexuals. If somebody isn't comfortable with a subject like that I believe that you shouldn't try to shove acceptance down their throat. But yeah. I'm probably gonna get a lot of hate for this. But I would just ask if everyone could respect each others opinions. We all can't agree on everything. It's simply human.

-- Wed Mar 28, 2018 1:28 pm --

Also, "Small Minded"? Is it small minded to disagree with someone? Is it small minded to not have the same beliefs? Is it small minded for me to listen to what I was taught and what I believe? Is it really small minded to listen to my conscience? I am not hating on it. It's just I don't like movies trying to push their agenda on me. So really the reality is if you are calling other peoples arguments small minded it's just in its own way small minded. People say we need to be open to all things such as homosexuality. So if you are pressing us to consider your side shouldn't you also consider ours? I believe in what the Bible says.

-- Wed Mar 28, 2018 1:30 pm --

And I know that the majority of the people her support homosexuality. I respect your opinion. If you thought critically and came to that conclusion than what can I attack?

-- Wed Mar 28, 2018 1:51 pm --

Also just to clarify, I am NOT a hater. Its just I don't really support it.

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Okay, so first of all, I’m like 85% sure Miss Friendship was being sarcastic with her post.
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If things like that make me uncomfortable can't I express that?

Is that not what you did?

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Also I believe with a topic like this yes it's bad for people to hate on homosexuality, but isn't it just as worst to hate on the haters?

Not really. One of these things has led to centuries of persecution, including state-sponsored execution, torture, imprisonment, the destruction of entire families, suicide, minority stress, massacres, and forced marriages, all of which continue into modern times.

The other thing has been a phenomenon for maybe 70 years, and usually involves some people getting their feelings hurt. If you wanted to dig a little, I’m sure you could find some cases of bullying and abuse, which of course should be deplored, but there’s really no contest as to which of these has resulted in more harm.

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Also, "Small Minded"? Is it small minded to disagree with someone? Is it small minded to not have the same beliefs? Is it small minded for me to listen to what I was taught and what I believe? Is it really small minded to listen to my conscience?

I mean, “small minded” is a pretty subjective term to start with, but it depends on what you’re disagreeing with. If your position is “I don’t want any gay people in my movies if their sexuality isn’t treated like a disease or joke,” then yes, I would call that small minded. I’m critical of the idea that all sincerely held beliefs are worthy of respect. Certainly I would want to extend some level of respect to all people, but that doesn’t necessarily apply to what they say and do, especially if it results in demonstrable harm to others.

Here’s an example of some sincerely held (religious) beliefs I would not respect, regardless of the fact that the person who expressed them was a devout man who based them on (his interpretation of) the Bible.
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IS SEGREGATION SCRIPTURAL?
[This Is an Issue of Utmost Importance]

My friends, I am going to bring you today one of the most important and most timely messages I have ever brought. I hope you will sit close to the radio. Do not let anything disturb you. I want you to hear this message through.

[When the Bible Speaks Clearly on a Subject, That Settles It]

Now, we folks at Bob Jones University believe that whatever the Bible says is so, and we believe it says certain fundamental things that all Bible-believing Christians accept; but when the Bible speaks clearly about any subject, that settles it. Men do not always agree, because some people are dumb—some people are spiritually dumb; but when the Bible is clear, there is not any reason why everybody should not accept it.

The Bible makes some things plain. It makes it plain how to be saved. We are saved by grace through faith in the atoning blood of Christ. The Bible makes it plain that man is naturally a sinner and that he has to become supernaturally a Christian–born again.

All orthodox, Bible-believing Christians agree on one thing; and that is, that whatever the Bible says is so. When they had old religious debates, they used to get together and say, ‘Well, we will discuss this subject.’ One man would say, ‘The Bible says this,’ and another man would say, ‘You are mistaken. It says this.’ They argued about what the Bible said. They agreed that whatever it said was so, but they argued about what it said.

[The Source of Much of Today’s Troubles: Biblical Authority Is Being Undermined and Replaced with the Opinion of Man]

In recent years there has been a subtle, Satanic effort to undermine people’s faith in the Bible; and the devil has led the race along until men have put their own opinion above the Word of God.

You will find that practically all the troubles we are having today have come out of the fact that men in many instances have ceased to believe in an authoritative Bible.

[Racial Turmoil Is Contrary to the Word of God]

For instance, we are living in the midst of race turmoil all over the world today. Look at what they are facing in Africa, and look at what we are facing in this country. It is all contrary to Scripture–it is all contrary to the Word of God.

[The Bible Is Perfectly Clear on Races]

I am going to show you that the Bible is perfectly clear on races–just as clear as it can be.


[God Is Not the Father of Everyone but Only of the Born-Again]

People come along and say, “Well, God is the Father of everybody.” No, He is not. God is the Father of born-again people. The Bible says this as clearly as it can be put in language. We are children of God by faith in Jesus Christ.

[Born-Again Christians Do not Have Trouble with Each Other If They Follow God’s Word]

There is no trouble between a born-again white man and a born-again colored man or a born-again Chinese or a born-again Japanese. Born-again, Bible-believing Christians do not have trouble. They may not understand some things; but when we give them the Word of God for it, they see it and understand it.

You know, we have gotten away from the Bible. Modern education came along and put the opinion of man above the Word of God, and man has come along and tried to give us an explanation. All you have to do is live up to the Word of God, and you will have no trouble about knowing how to meet life’s problems.

[What God Teaches about the Races from Acts 17]

What does God teach about the races of the world? If you will go to the seventeenth chapter of the Acts of the Apostles, you will find where Paul preached a special sermon on Mars Hill. Remember now, Athens was the center of culture. There are still fragments of the Athenian culture today in the museums over there; and you can walk around among the crumbled ruins. Paul was there. Paul was chosen of God (he was a Jew) to be the great apostle to the Gentiles. I think the greatest man who ever lived was Paul–I mean I think he was greater than Moses and greater than any other man who lived. Of course, I am not talking about the Lord Jesus Christ Who was God-Man. But to my mind, no other mere human ever reached the height of greatness that Paul reached. He was honored as God never honored any other man. He suffered as few men have ever had to suffer. He was misunderstood; but, oh, what a man he was.

Paul tells us in his sermon on Mars Hill, “God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heave and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands.” Now, the statue of the Grecian goddess, Athena, was in the Parthenon; and Paul said that God did not dwell in buildings made with hands. “Neither is worshiped with men’s hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things.”

[Acts 17:26 Is Crucial and Clear: God Fixed the Bounds of the Races’ Inhabitations]

Now, notice–this is an important verse–the twenty-sixth verse of the seventeenth chapter of the Acts of the Apostles, “And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth” (in some of the best original manuscripts, the word “blood” is not there, but it is not important anyhow, because the thoughts are the same). “And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth. . . .” But do not stop there, “. . . and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation.” Now, what does that say? That says that God Almighty fixed the bounds of their habitation. That is as clear as anything that was ever said.

If you have a legal document and there is a paragraph that is clear and you come across an obscure passage, you interpret the obscure passage in the light of the clear passage. Any lawyer will tell you that. If he has a case in court, he will say, “Now, gentlemen of the jury, here is what this paragraph says. This one paragraph is not quite clear, but this other paragraph is clear; and we will interpret this in the light of the clear passage.”

[Example: The Chinese Live in China and They Should Marry Fellow Chinese]

God Almighty did not make of the human race one race in the sense that He did not fix the bounds of their habitation. That is perfectly clear. It is no accident that most Chinese are in China. There has been an overflow in the world, but most Chinese live in China. There are millions and millions of them there, and there are no greater people in the world. I have never known lovelier and more wonderful people than the Chinese.

We were over in Formosa a few years ago and conferred an honorary degree on Generalissimo Chiang Kai-shek, and I never met a greater man. I never met a man of more intelligence or a more wonderful Christian; and Madame Chiang Kai-shek is a wonderful woman. There they are. Now, what happened? They married each other. She was a Christian Chinese woman educated in America. When she finished her education, she went back to her home in China. How God has used Generalissimo and Madame Chiang Kai-shek–not only as Christian witnesses but also in other ways. I was never with a man who pulled me to him with stronger ties than Generalissimo Chiang Kai-shek when I was over there and conferred an honorary degree on him. All right, he is a Chinese. He married a Chinese woman. That is the way God meant it to be.

[Trouble Comes When Nations Break Out of Bounds of Their Fixed Habitation, Contrary to God’s Clear Word]

Paul said that God “. . . hath made of one blood all nations of men . . . .” But He also fixed the bounds of their habitation. When nations break out of their boundaries and begin to do things contrary to the purpose of God and the directive will of God, they have trouble. The world is in turmoil today because men and nations go contrary to the clear teaching of the Word of God. Let’s understand that. The Chinese people are wonderful people. They have internal troubles, of course, because Communism has gone into China and disturbed a great deal of the population. But the Chinese people are wonderful people. The Japanese people are ingenious–they are wonderful people. The Koreans are wonderful people. The Africans are wonderful people. In many ways, there are no people in the world finer than the colored people who were brought over here in slavery in days gone by.

[Why You Cannot Talk about a Superior Race and an Inferior Race]

You talk about a superior race and an inferior race and all that kind of situation. Wait a minute. No race is inferior in the will of God. Get that clear. If a race is in the will of God, it is not inferior. It is a superior race. You cannot be superior to another race if your race is in the will of God and the other race is in the will of God.

[Trouble Came When Man Ran Contrary to God’s Will and Purpose for the Races]

But the purposes of these races were established by Almighty God; and when man attempts to run contrary to the directive will of God for this world, there is always trouble. Now, that is the trouble.

[History in America: The Wrong of Slavery Turned for Good]

What happened? Well, away back yonder our forefathers went over to Africa and brought the colored people back and sold them into slavery. That was wrong. But God overruled. When they came over here, many of them did not know the Bible and did not know about Jesus Christ; but they got converted. Some of the greatest preachers the world has ever known were colored preachers who were converted in slavery days. John Jasper was one of them. One of the greatest preachers who ever stood before an American audience was John Jasper. And Sam Jones, years ago down in Georgia, told us about an old, colored preacher down there. He said, “There is no man who ever stood on two legs who could preach like him.”

God Almighty allowed these colored people to be turned here into the South and overruled what happened, and then He turned the colored people in the South into wonderful Christian people.

[No Two Races Have Ever Gotten Along So Well as the Whites and the Coloreds in the South]

For many years we have lived together. Occasionally there will be a flare-up. But the white people have helped the colored people build their churches, and we have gotten along together harmoniously and peacefully; and everything has come along fine.

Sometimes we have a little trouble, but then we adjust everything sensibly and get back to the established order. But the good white folks have always stood by their good colored friends, and the good colored folks have always stood by their good white friends. No two races ever lived as close together as the white people and the colored people here in the South and got along so well.

[The Effort Today to Disturb God’s Plan and Established Order]

Now, what is the matter? There is an effort today to disturb the established order. Wait a minute. Listen, I am talking straight to you. White folks and colored folks, you listen to me. You cannot run over God’s plan and God’s established order without having trouble. God never meant to have one race. It was not His purpose at all. God has a purpose for each race.

[What Might Have Happened If the Freed Slaves Had Gone Back to Africa]

God Almighty may have overruled and permitted the slaves to come over to America so that the colored people could be the great missionaries to the Africans. They could have been. The white people in America would have helped pay their way over there. By the hundred and hundred they could have gone back to Africa and got the Africans converted after the slavery days were over.

[Instead, We Have Racial Disturbance All Over the World That Is Not of God]

All right, now what is happening? Down in Africa there is trouble and turmoil. There is racial disturbance all over the world, and it is not of God. The Bible is clear on this. When people come along and say, “Well, God is the Father of everybody,” they are wrong. He is not the Father of everybody. That is not in the Bible. That is a Satanic lie. Let me repeat, the Bible says as clearly as language can put it that people are children of God by faith in Jesus Christ. We are children of God by faith in Jesus Christ. That is what the Bible says. Let’s take the Word of God and quit slandering the Word of God. We are children of God by faith in Jesus Christ. A born-again white man and a born-again colored man can settle any differences they have. God is their Father. They are children of God by faith in Jesus Christ.

[Outsider Agitators in the Name of Piety]

Individually, Christian people in the South–white and black–through the years have been able to work together and to understand each other. But now a world of outside agitation has been started, and people are coming in the name of piety, but it is a false piety, and are endeavoring to disturb God’s established order; and we are having turmoil all over America. This disturbing movement is not of God. It is not in line with the Bible. It is Satanic. Now, listen and understand this. Do not let people lead you astray.

[Both Colored Folks and Poor White People Have Been Mistreated]

“Well,” you say, “The colored folks have not been treated right.” I agree with you. Neither have the poor white people been treated right. When I was a boy in Southeast Alabama, we lived in what was called the white section of the State. There were not many colored people there. The slaves were in the western part and in the midsection of the State. Down in Southeast Alabama there were some slaves but not many; but they had the reconstruction days–hard days–and the time came along when people were having a hard time. Some white folks were not treated right. They paid 20 percent interest on money. They were oppressed by people who had money. The colored people down in my country were treated just as well as the white people by businessmen. Any man who would mistreat a colored man would mistreat a white man. If he is mean enough to mistreat one man, he is mean enough to mistreat another.

[But You Don’t Right a Wrong by Trying to Overthrow God’s Established Order]

You can go to any city in the country and find the poor people living in a certain section there. I do not say that things are right. But things are not going to be made right by trying to overthrow God’s established order. That is not the way to make things right. You cannot make them right that way. The colored people in the South today are better off than they are anywhere else in the world. The situation is not a perfect situation for the white folks or the colored folks or for anybody else; but we have never had a perfect situation in this world since Adam and Eve disobeyed God in the Garden of Eden.

[This Agitation Is Satanic Propaganda]

I want you folks to listen–you white and you colored folks. Do not let these Satanic propagandists fool you. This agitation is not of God. It is of the devil. Do not let people slander God Almighty. God made it plain. God meant for Christian people to treat each other right. If you are a Christian white person or a Christian colored person, you will treat each other right. We Christians are children of God by faith in Jesus Christ. We are one in Christ; but let us remember that the God Who made of one blood all nations also fixed the boundaries of their habitations.

Yes, Paul said, “God . . . hath made of one blood all nations of men . . . .” All men, to whatever race they may belong, have immortal souls; but all men have mortal bodies, and God fixed the boundaries of the races of the world. Let me repeat that it is no accident that most of the Chinese live in China. It is not an accident that most Japanese live in Japan; and the Africans should have been left in Africa, and the Gospel should have been take to them as God commanded His people to do.

[Wherever There Is Racial Mixing, There Is Trouble]

Wherever we have the races mixed up in large numbers, we have trouble. They have trouble in New York. They have trouble in San Francisco. They have had trouble all over California. Back in the old days when I was a young fellow, Captain Richmond Pearson Hobson went up and down this country and lectured on the “yellow peril” and told us we were owing to have trouble with Japan. He said there would be a war with Japan some day. People said, “Oh, well, he is crazy.” Other leaders went over this country and lectured on the “yellow peril” and the dangers we were facing. Remember, we did have a war with Japan.

The best friends we have in many ways are in the Orient. There are millions of Chinese over there. Dr. Grace Haight, who used to be on our faculty and who was a missionary to China, told us that the Chinese were the best people in the world. Let me tell you something. When it comes to quality of races, all these races have quality. They have good qualities and bad qualities.

If we would just listen to the Word of God and not try to overthrow God’s established order, we would not have any trouble. God never meant for America to be a melting pot to rub out the line between the nations. That was not God’s purpose for this nation. When someone goes to overthrowing His established order and goes around preaching pious sermons about it, that makes me sick–for a man to stand up and preach pious sermons in this country and talk about rubbing out the line between the races–I say it makes me sick.

I have had the sweetest fellowship with colored Christians, with yellow Christians, with red Christians, with all sorts of Christians–the sweetest fellowship anybody has ever had, we have had. Christians have always had it. We have never had any trouble about that. The trouble today is a Satanic agitation striking back at God’s established order. That is what is making trouble for us.

[The Southerners Should Not Have Bought Slaves from Northerners But Should Instead Have Sent Missionaries to Africa]

Of course, it is easy to look back over the years and see the situation from another standpoint; but when the folks up North went to Africa and brought the slaves over to this country and sold them to the Southern people, the Southern people should have been Christian enough to have said, “We will not have any slaves. We are not going ahead.” But, you know, they went ahead.

Only a small percentage of the Southern people held slaves. Only a small percentage of them were slave owners. A great many people in the South in the old days did not believe in slavery–they stood against slavery. But they went ahead, and the commercial element was dominant; and people bought slaves and sold them. This slavery was not right. It should not have been. What we should have done was to have sent missionaries to Africa. Yes, that is what we should have done. That would have been in line with Scripture.

God put the Africans over there. They are fine people. They are intelligent people. Do not think they are inferior in every way. It is not so. But we should have sent missionaries over there, and Africa should have been a great nation of colored Christians. If we had done what God had told us to do and sent the Gospel to them and made a Christian nation out of them instead of bringing them over here and selling them into slavery, Africa could have been a great nation of colored Christians. What we did was wrong. It was not right. It cannot be justified. We should not try to justify it. But people went along. Some good people fell for it and went ahead with it; and God overruled it.

I will venture there is not a population in the world where there is a larger percentage of professing Christians than among the colored people in the South. We Christian white people all have good friends among the colored people. The colored Christian people are sensing the dangers we are facing now. There is already an uprising among good, Christian colored people in the South. They are trying to fight back the subtle, Satanic disturbance we have in this country.

[White Southerners Have Never Been More Eager to Help the Colored]

There has never been a time, especially in the last ten years, when the white people in the South were so eager to help the colored people build their schools and see that they get what they ought to have. All this agitation going on is not headed up by real, Bible-believing, Christian people.

[Religious Liberals Are the Worst Infidels]

These religious liberals are the worst infidels in many ways in the country; and some of them are filling pulpits down South. They do not believe the Bible any longer; so it does not do any good to quote it to them. They have gone over to modernism, and they are leading the white people astray at the same time; and they are leading colored Christians astray. But every good, substantial, Bible-believing, intelligent, orthodox Christian can read the Word of God and know that what is happening in the South now is not of God.

[God Segregated the Jews Because of His Purpose, Not Their Inferiority]

God gave every race something. He gave the Africans something. He gave the Chinese something that he did not give the Japanese. He gave races certain things. He chose the Jews. They are the most wonderful people who ever lived in the world. God chose them; and God segregated them, not because they were inferior but because He had a purpose for that race.

God Almighty had a purpose for the Jewish race; and for that purpose to be carried out, He had to separate them from among the nations of the earth. God chose Israel; and through the loins of Israel, He brought us the Messiah. He gave us the Bible through Israel. The Jews have outlived all the nations. They have been scattered over the face of the earth, and they have kept their racial identity through the years. You will find the Jew in London, the Jew in New York, the Jew in San Francisco, the Jew in Tokyo, the Jew in Hong Kong. I congratulate them. I am a friend of the Jew. I believe that the Covenant that God made with Abraham holds good until this day, “I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee. . . .”

The Jews are back in Palestine with a Government today. God scattered them, but He brought them back to their homeland. I am for them, and I am for their homeland and for their Government. I do not agree with them about Jesus. I know Jesus Christ was the Son of God; and I know that when Jesus Christ comes back again, He will be the King of the Jews and will be accepted and a nation will be born in a day, and Jerusalem will be the capital of the world. That is all in the Bible. It is clear as day.

[If You Are Against Racial Separation, You Are Against Almighty God]

Yes, God chose the Jews. If you are against segregation and against racial separation, then you are against God Almighty because He made racial separation in order to preserve the race through whom He could send the Messiah and through whom He could send the Bible. God is the author of segregation. God is the author of Jewish separation and Gentile separation and Japanese separation. God made of one blood all nations, but He also drew the boundary lines between races.

Of course, in America we do not have a serious problem with the Orient. If we had as many Chinese and Japanese as we have colored people in the South, we would run into the same problem; but we have no Oriental problem here in the South.

Some of the most wonderful people in the world are Chinese and some are Japanese; and some of the most wonderful people who ever breathed the breath of life are colored people. Every one of you white folks who are listening to me now have colored friends. I have, and I would fight for them; and you would, too. It has always been that way. Individually, we are friends. Racially, we are not at enmity; but we are separate races. We have lived here in the South through these years.

[Colored People Should Remember All That White People Have Done for Them]

After the Civil War the colored people wanted to build their schools and churches, and white friends made financial contribution to the building of these schools and churches. Back in those days it was not easy when the white folks were paying most of the taxes–don’t you colored friends forget that when you are inclined to turn away from your white friends. You colored people might also remember that your ancestry in the South who were slaves breathed an atmosphere of culture back in those pre-Civil War days. Think of what your ancestors received in such an atmosphere. Think of the religion that they learned and how they found God in slavery days. Think of those old white preachers who preached to your colored ancestors when they were slaves.

Now listen, the time has come when we ought to sit down and go to thinking some things through in this country. And you colored people listening to me and you white people listening to me ought to keep your heads cool and your minds clear and your hearts warm and keep up these friendly relations we have had through the years. Do not let this outside, Communistic, Hellish influence disturb the friendly relation we have had in the South. The situation in the South had been better in recent years than it had ever been; and all of this agitation is going to set this country back in the South for twenty-five to fifty years. We are headed that way. We ought to rise up and begin to face this thing like we ought to face it as neighbors and fiends. Every one of you colored people know your white friends. All you white people know your colored friends. We have some of them, and we would not let anybody mistreat them if we could help it; and they would not let anybody mistreat us. It has always been that way in the South.

But racially we have separation in the Bible. Let’s get that clear. Any race has a right to come to America. We do not mean that when we came over here we wiped out the line between races. We did not do that. We should have let the Africans stay in Africa instead of bringing them here for slaves, but did you colored people ever stop to think where you might have been if that had not happened? Now, you colored people listen to me. If you had not been brought over here and if your grandparents in slavery days had not heard that great preaching you might not even be a Christian. You might be over there in the jungles of Africa today, unsaved. But you are here in America where you have your own schools and your own churches and your own liberties and your own rights, with certain restrictions that God Almighty put about you–restrictions that are in line with the Word of God. The Jews have lived a separated race. They have been separated from the other races of the world. They have been miraculously preserved. Now they have a homeland. They are back there today, and what a wonderful thing is happening.

The time has come when we good folks down here in the South–the good colored people and the good white people–need to use our heads. We should not let this outside agitation disturb us down here. Now, listen just a minute. You colored people are entitled to good schools. You ought to have them. I would like for you to remember something. Just remember that the South went through reconstruction and had a hard time. It was not easy. Then remember something else, too. When your ancestors were slaves in the homes of these Southern people, they got a breath of culture that they could not have gotten even in the schoolrooms of America. They heard the old-time preachers. I have said many times that the greatest preachers who have lived since the Apostolic days were the preachers of the South–the preachers who preached to the colored people. And back there the slaves had the Gospel. They heard it and were converted. They were saved.

Many of these slave owners were godly, spiritual people. I remember hearing about when John Jasper was converted at a corn husking and began to shout. His master said, “John, what is the matter?” He said, “I have just been converted–been saved.” “Well,” he said, “I am a Christian, too. We are brothers.” They shook hands. He said, “Now, John, you take a day off and go around and tell all the colored folks how you found the Lord. Take a day off and tell them.”

[Colored People in White Churches]

Back in the old days when I began to preach, over sixty years ago, nearly every church I went to had a few old colored people who never did leave. They said, “We want to stay here. We got converted here and want to stay here.” They were encouraged, and the white people helped build their churches. They stood by them through the years.

Now, you intelligent-thinking colored people know that you are with your friends. Do not lose your friends. Your friends are not somewhere else. They are right down here in this country. Remember that now.

[The Plan to Build a Bob Jones University for Colored People]

I have no axe to grind. I would like to tell you something. We had planned to build a school, just like Bob Jones University, here in the South for colored people. We wanted to build it. But we have run into this agitation now that makes it difficult, and the years are piling up. I do not suppose I will ever be able to build it. We wanted to build a great school where colored people could come and get all the culture that we offer here at Bob Jones University. We would not have face the problems that are faced where there is integration. We wanted to build a place where Christian colored people could get their education in an atmosphere where their talents in music and speech and art and all could be preserved and handed down. We wanted to build that kind of a school. We had that in mind until all this agitation started. Now we have a mess on our hands, and it is spreading out over this country.

[White Folks Need to Remember Their Good Old Colored Friends]

You white folks listen to me. Just remember the good, old, colored friends you had in the days gone by. I remember mine. I remember that old, colored woman who was with my wife’s grandmother when she died. She used to be a nurse in the home way back in slavery days. I remember how my wife’s grandmother said the happiest day she ever saw was when the slaves were freed. She owned hundreds of them, and she said, “I was so happy. I was afraid some of them would be lost, and I felt that God might hold me accountable.” That spirit represented the Old South.

You say slavery was not right. Well, I say it was not right. I say the colored people should have been left over in Africa, and we should have sent missionaries over there and got them converted. That is what we should have done. But we could not have converted them as fast that way; and God makes the wrath of men to praise Him. They were brought over here, and look what they have. They have their churches. They have a freedom here they do not have anywhere else in the world. They have an understanding here. Let’s not wipe out the line of understanding.

[Keep Your Bible Where It Belongs]

Now, I am appealing to you colored people and to you white people. Let’s use our heads. Let’s be intelligent. Let’s not try to kick the Bible off the center table. Keep your Bible where it belongs. When they tell you that God Almighty is not the author of the boundaries of nations, you tell them that is wrong. You tell them it is perfectly clear in the Bible that God made of one blood all nations but that He also fixed the bounds of their habitation. There is nothing unscriptural about that.

[Why Bringing a Few Foreigners Here Is Not Necessarily a Problem—But It Could Be]

Listen just a minute. We are trying to bring a few people from other lands here to Bob Jones University so we can educate them and help them. We have two Chinese gentlemen teaching here in this school. They are Christian men. They are intelligent men, and they understand what we are doing. They know where we are going. We honor and respect them.

There is no problem here. But it could be a problem. It could be a problem in California. It could be a problem anywhere. Whenever you get a situation that rubs out the line that God has drawn between races, whenever that happens, you are going to have trouble. That is what is happening today in this country.

[Communistic Agitation to Overthrow God’s Established Order]

All this agitation is a Communistic agitation to overthrow the established order of God in this world. The Communistic influence is at work all about us. Certain people are disturbing this situation. They talk about the fact that we are going to have one world. We will never really have one world until this world heads up in God. We are not going to have one world by man’s rubbing out the line that God has established. He is marking the lines, and you cannot rub them out and get away with it.

[Why Overthrowing God’s Established Order Leads to Trouble]

The established order cannot be overthrown without having trouble. That is what wrecked Paradise. God set up the order of Paradise. He told Adam and Eve how to live and what food to eat and what not to eat. He drew the lines around that Garden; and when Adam and Eve crossed over the lines of God, thorns grew on roses. The first baby that was born was a murderer and killed his own brother. So it has gone down through the ages. It is man’s rebellion (due to the fall) against a Holy God to overthrow the established order of God in this world.

[A Christian Can Have Fellowship with a Christian of Another Race, but Not Enter Marital Union with Another Race]

Now I can sit down with any Christian Japanese, and Christian Chinese, and Christian African, etc., anywhere in the world and as a Christian have fellowships. That is a different relationship. A Christian relationship does not mean a marriage relationship. You can be a Christian and have fellowship with people that you would not marry and that God does not want you to marry and that if you should marry you would be marrying outside the will of God. Why can’t you see that? Why can’t good, solid, substantial people who do not have any prejudices and do not have any hatred and do not have any bitterness see this? Let’s approach this thing in a Christian way. Let’s make the battle a Christian battle. Do not let people run over you by coming along and talking about the Universal Fatherhood of God and the Universal Brotherhood of man. There is no Universal Fatherhood of God and Universal Brotherhood of man. There is not a word about that in the Bible.

[Christians Are One in Christ, but Before Heaven We Are Not One Race or Nation]

We have three classes in the Bible. We have the Jew (a segregated race), the Gentile (and this includes everybody else), and the Church of God (meaning the Body of Christ, as it is used here). In the Church of God there are no Jews, no Gentiles, no white folks, no black folks. We are one in Christ. There is no trouble between a colored Christian and a white Christian. They operate as individuals and deal with each other as Christians who have their citizenship in Heaven. Up in Heaven there will be no boundaries. We will be one forever with Christ. But we are not one down here, as far as race is concerned and as far as nations are concerned. God said so, and Paul made it clear when he preached at Athens in the midst of Athenian culture. He said that God “. . . hath made of one blood all nations of men. . . .” But God has also done something else. He has fixed the bounds of their habitations.

[Certain Types of Evangelists Are Causing a Lot of This Agitation]

A lot of this agitation comes from evangelists of a certain type who have never gone into this situation but who are going up and down rubbing out the line between those who believe the Bible is the Word of God and those who believe the Bible just contains or may contain the Word of God. They do not get all of this “hot-air” stuff out of the Bible. It is not in the Bible. It is nothing in the world, but “hot-air” glamour with a sentimental, soap-bubble, anemic kind of religion that is not in the Word of God.

[The Good Old Days When People Followed God’s Word]

I have been in this business all these years. I know something about it. I know what the Word of God teaches. I know what the great evangelists believed. I know how they stood through the years. We are facing serious dangers today–more serious than we can ever imagine. May God help us to see it and understand it and to be true to Him.

When you run into conflict with God’s established order racially, you have trouble. You do not produce harmony. You produce destruction and trouble, and this nation is in the greatest danger it has ever been in in its history. We are facing dangers from abroad and dangers at home, and the reason is that we have got away from the Bible of our forefathers. The best Christians who ever put foot on this earth since the Apostolic days were the men and women in America back in the old days. Some of them owned slaves, and some of them did not; and some of them were slaves, and some of them were not. Back in those days they believed the Bible, and God called this nation into existence to be a witness to the world and to be true to the Word of God. Do not let these religious liberals blowing their bubbles of nothing over your head get you upset and disturbed. Let’s get back to the Word of God and be sensible.

[Address to White Folks and Black Folks]

You white folks and you black folks listening to me this morning, if you are Christians, we are one in Christ. If you are yellow or red or whoever you are, if you are Christians, we are one in Christ. We can get along together as Christians, and we had better stand together as Christians.

[Address to Preacher]

You preachers, listen to me. I know what is going on. We are facing dangers in America. Enemies are being made now that are dividing this country as it has never been divided in its history. We are facing the greatest dangers we have ever faced, and the religious liberals are riding in now on the crest of a wave of what seems to be popular.

[Rubbing Out the Lines Between the Races Is Preparation for the AntiChrist]

If you are a Christian, you are not going to mistreat anybody. You will not mistreat a colored man or a white man or anybody else. Individually, we are one in Christ; but God has also fixed the boundaries of nations, and these lines cannot be rubbed out without having trouble. The darkest day the world has ever known will be when we have one world like they are talking about now. The line will be rubbed out, and the Antichrist will take over and sit down on the throne and rule the world for a little while; and there will be judgment and the cataclysmic curses found in the book of Revelation. We are going to face all this. May God help us to see it and to be true and faithful to Him.

[A Prayer]

Our heavenly Father, bless our country. We thank Thee for our ancestors. We thank Thee for the good, Christian people–white and black. We thank Thee for the ties that have bound these Christian white people and Christian colored people together through the years, and we thank Thee that white people who had a little more money helped them build their churches and stood by them and when they got sick, they helped them. No nation has ever prospered or been blessed like the colored people in the South. Help these colored Christian not to get swept away by all the propaganda that is being put out now. Help us to see this thing and to understand God’s established order and to be one in Christ and to understand that God has fixed the boundaries of the nations so we would not have trouble and misunderstanding. Keep us by Thy power and use us for They glory, for Jesus’ sake. Amen.

Keep in mind that Bob Jones University wanted to deny admittance to black people while being tax exempt, and got widespread support from American evangelicals. This issue actually became a major rallying point for the religious right in the 1976 Presidential election. BJU continued to advocate for segregation into the 1990s.

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I am not hating on it. It's just I don't like movies trying to push their agenda on me.

Does this apply to God’s Not Dead and The War Room, or just movies with gay people in them?

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And I know that the majority of the people her support homosexuality.

As an actual gay person and someone who has participated on this board for the last 6 years, I can assure you this is not the case.

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I am not hating on it. It's just I don't like movies trying to push their agenda on me.

Does this apply to God’s Not Dead and The War Room, or just movies with gay people in them?

I think you definitely have a point, however, if you are watching those movies you are most likely religious, considering the main theme in those movies is religious themes. If you go to see Beaty and the Beast, you are most likely going for nostalgia or just because it was a big deal. I doubt you would go see the Beauty and the Beast JUST because it has hinted at homosexuality.
I do agree with The Docter that it honestly just seemed very unnecessary to hint at that, but I think it was made far too big a deal considering that there was literally more gayness in Scooby-Doo.
I am definitely not calling anyone else, this is just from personal experience that Christians can sometimes be a bit hypocritical (this really goes both ways though). And I think it is important to try and see from both sides.

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Its two guys who accidentally end up dancing. Whop-de-do. I used to go this homeschool Civil War Ball thing, and there were probably 60% girls in attendance and only 40% guys, so often girls ended up dancing with each other. And it wasn't homosexual or sexual at all it was just friends having fun. >_>

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Its two guys who accidentally end up dancing. Whop-de-do. I used to go this homeschool Civil War Ball thing, and there were probably 60% girls in attendance and only 40% guys, so often girls ended up dancing with each other. And it wasn't homosexual or sexual at all it was just friends having fun. >_>



Serious? o_o

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Its two guys who accidentally end up dancing. Whop-de-do. I used to go this homeschool Civil War Ball thing, and there were probably 60% girls in attendance and only 40% guys, so often girls ended up dancing with each other. And it wasn't homosexual or sexual at all it was just friends having fun. >_>

Serious? o_o

Um...yes...?

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Belle wrote:
Its two guys who accidentally end up dancing. Whop-de-do. I used to go this homeschool Civil War Ball thing, and there were probably 60% girls in attendance and only 40% guys, so often girls ended up dancing with each other. And it wasn't homosexual or sexual at all it was just friends having fun. >_>



Serious? o_o

Yeah, it happens all the time at the one where I'm at. It's really not a big deal. Trust me, I would have prefered the movie without that moment, but it hardly lasted a single second, and people made it waaaay to big of a deal.

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Technically Paddington 2 is 2018...

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I'm surprised that I'm the only one who voted for Murder on the Orient Express. It was done so well, and I got to see it in theaters two times.

What? *goes to vote* I really enjoyed this one, however my friends all claimed they fell asleep in theater because it was that awful... They made it seem like something was wrong with me for enjoying it.


Yeah, I don't understand the hate that I've heard for it. I've heard some people say it was "boring", but I think they sort of misunderstood the point of the film. It's a murder mystery, and follows the investigation, which consists mostly of passenger interviews. It's not meant to be a fast-paced thriller, it's an adaptation of a classic mystery. And it did a very good job of honoring the classic, and of bringing the characters (especially Poirot) to life. I personally think the book did a better job of the mystery portion, but I was never in it for the mystery (as I had already read the book), so that wasn't a huge issue for me.

I also voted for Coco and Beauty and the Beast. I think I'm becoming a Disnerd.

Yeah, I never really got the hate for it. I didn't vote for it, but it was a great movie and the characters were great.
But you are becoming a Disnerd woody :mrgreen:

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